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= 2018 meeting =
 
= 2018 meeting =
Coordinated by: Tim Bird
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Coordinated by: Tim Bird and Kevin Hilman
  
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== Mailing list ==
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Discussions on this topic have started at on the "Automated Testing" mailing list of the Yocto Project
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* See https://lists.yoctoproject.org/listinfo/automated-testing
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== Action items from meeting ==
 
Action items:
 
Action items:
* Determine attendees
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* (done) Tim: refine glossary with feedback from summit
** create "wanted attendees" list
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** (done) Tim: Create glossary wiki page (separate from survey)
** ask for interested parties
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* modify CI reference diagram with discussed changes (Kevin?)
* Determine venue
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* (done) Tim: Finalize survey results (mostly done, see [[Test_Stack_Survey#Responses]])
** ask candidate attendees about which event, length, format works best for them
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* Start working on pdudaemon as central location for power control abstraction for DUT control driver interface (who to do this?)
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* (done) Tim Bird: Create a test Definition survey (to collect Test Definition fields)
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* Tim Bird: Send test phases, as a way of starting discussion on Test Execution API
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* Tim Orling: create pdudaemon debian package?
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* "result format" survey needed soon
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* (done) create a page for test suite links - see [[Test Systems]]
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** page created, but not fully populated yet
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* (done) create a page for automated testing overview - see [[Automated Testing]]
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* create a reference for experimenting with a test framework: hello_test on a beaglebone
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** document describing how something works on each framework
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* Kevin: create an automated test project in the Linux Foundation
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* collect Run Artifact fields (for possible RA standard) (unassigned)
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* (started) Tim Bird: arrange for sessions and meetings at ELCE 2019
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** I have some information from Angela at the Linux Foundation about the cost of a co-located side meeting
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** see [[Automated Testing Summit 2019]]
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* Chris Fiege: create "Design for Testing" document aimed at board hardware designers
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= Date and Venue  =
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* Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
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* Venue: in the Edinburgh International Conference Centre
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* Date: October 25, 2018
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** co-located (following) Embedded Linux Conference Europe and Open Source Summit Europe
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** ELCE and OSSEU run Oct 22-24
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** see https://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/elc-openiot-europe-2018/
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** You can use the Linux Foundation discounts for room blocks at certain hotels in Edinburgh.  See [https://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/elc-openiot-europe-2018/attend/venue-travel/ the venue-travel page] for ELCE for more information.
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* Room: Ochil Suite 1-3, Level 1, EICC
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* Time: 9:00 am to 5:00 pm
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Lunch will be included.  Attendance is by invitation and is free-of-charge.
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Sponsorship was provided by:
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* the [https://wiki.linuxfoundation.org/celp/start Core Embedded Linux Project] of the Linux Foundation
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* [https://linaro.org Linaro]
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* [http://www.denso-ten.com/ DENSO TEN]
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= Summit Artifacts =
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== Minutes ==
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See [[ATS 2018 Minutes]]
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== Presentation ==
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Here are Tim's slides from the event: [[Media:ATS2018-Intro-and-Discussion-Topics.pdf | PDF]]
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== Video ==
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Videos are available at: https://www.linaro.org/events/attended/ats-2018/
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Also, Linaro has them on their YouTube channel at: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLKZSArYQptsPGftWXdlTI7vPCc42FXksD
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Many thanks to Linaro as the sponsor for recording and processing the video for the event!
  
* see who's interested in coming
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== LWN.net report ==
* send e-mail to find out which event, format, etc.
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Here is an article describing the report Kevin Hillman made of the summit.  He made
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this report a few weeks later, at Plumbers Conference 2019.
  
= Venue (candidates) =
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The article was written by Jake Edge.
* Plumbers 2018 - Vancouver, Canada - Nov 13-15
 
* ELC Europe 2018 - Edinburgh, Scotland - Oct 22-24
 
  
Note: For Plumbers, ATS would be a micro-conference during the event.
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See https://lwn.net/Articles/771782/
For ELC Europe, ATS could be before, during or after the event.
 
  
 
= Attendees =
 
= Attendees =
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This was a closed, invitation-only event.
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For this event, Kevin and I decided to keep it to a small focused group.
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Linaro sponsored recording the presentations and discussion, and the videos
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will be made available after the summit. I apologize if you would like to
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attend but have not been invited.  We are hopeful that we can put
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together a public automated testing event in the future.
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Invitations were sent out previously, and representatives from the following projects have agreed to come to the event.
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* 0-day
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* Fuego
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* Gentoo CI system
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* Buildbot
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* Jenkins
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* KernelCI
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* kerneltests.org
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* Kselftest
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* ktest
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* LAVA
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* Labgrid
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* LKFT
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* LTP
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* Opentest
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* Phoronix Test Suite
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* ptest
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* R4D
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* SLAV
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* syzkaller/syzbot
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* tbot
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* Xilinux testing
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* Yocto project (oeqa and ptest)
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= Pre-meeting work =
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Tim and Kevin worked on a glossary and survey, and CI loop diagram for discussion.
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See [[Test Stack Survey]] for the work in progress.
  
== wanted attendees ==
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Eventually, we'd like to fill out the information on: [[Test Stack Layers]]
* Pawel Wieczorek (Samsung) - SLAV
 
* Kevin Hillman (BayLibre) - KernelCI, lab-in-a-box
 
* Tom Gall (Linaro) - LKFT
 
* [[User:Codehelp|Neil Willliams]] (Linaro) - LAVA
 
* Jan Lübbe (Pengutronix) - Labgrid
 
* Tim Bird (Sony) - Fuego, ttc
 
* Andrew Murray (Witekio) - started this initiative
 
* Daniel Sangorrin (Toshiba) - Fuego/CIP
 
* Khiem Nguyen (Renesas) - LTSI testing
 
* more people from industry
 
** (comcast? - ask Khem for contact (done))
 
  
== possible invitees ==
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= Schedule =
* Yannick Brosseau (Facebook) -
 
* Dmitry Vyokov (Google) - KASAN, syskaller testing
 
* Kenji Tadano (Mitsubishi)
 
* Kengo Ibe (Mitsubishi)
 
* someone from yocto? (who?)
 
* someone from buildroot? (Thomas Petazzoni?)  (is the buildroot community interested in this?)
 
* someone from U-Boot? (Tom Rini/Stephen Warren/Simon Glass)?
 
  
== interested in attending ==
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{| class="wikitable"
Please add your preferred co-located conference (ELCE, Plumbers, or something else), if you have one.
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|+ ATS 2018 Schedule
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|-
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! Time
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! Topic
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! Presenter or discussion leader
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! Slides
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|-
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|9:00-9:10||Welcome and Introduction||Tim and Kevin||''no slides''
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|-
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|9:10-9:40||Vision and problem definition||Tim||?
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|-
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|9:40-10:40||Glossary and Diagram discussion||Tim and Kevin||.
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|- style="background:lightblue"
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| 10:40-11:00 || '''BREAK''' || ''n/a'' ||.
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|-
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|11:00-12:30||test definition, build artifacts, execution API (E)||.||.
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|- style="background:lightblue"
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|12:30-2:00||'''LUNCH BREAK'''||''n/a''||.
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|- style="background:lightblue"
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|1:00-2:00||''Brainstorming embedded Linux Requirements with CELP members''||Tim (discussion leader)||.
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|-
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|2:00-2:50||run artifacts, standardized results format, parsers||.||.
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|- style="background:lightblue"
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|2:50-3:10||'''BREAK'''||''n/a''||.
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|-
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|3:10-4:30||Farm standards - DUT control drivers, board definitions, discoverability, protocols||.||.
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|-
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|4:30-5:00||wrap-up||Tim and Kevin||.
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|}
  
* Geert Uytterhoeven - general board farm (ELCE or FOSDEM)
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Stuff not fit into schedule yet:
* Kieran Bingham - general board farm
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* Jan-Simon Möller - general board farm, especially LAVA & KernelCI
 
* Marco Cavallini (Koan) - general board farm
 
* Chris Fiege (Pengutronix) - board farm hardware, special development tools (USB-SD-Mux, ...)
 
* Michal Simek (Xilinx) - general board farm
 
* Punnaiah Choudary Kalluri (Xilinx) - general board farm
 
* [[User:Codehelp|Neil Willliams]] (Linaro) - LAVA
 
* Tim Bird (Sony) - Fuego, ttc (either ELCE or Plumbers is OK)
 
* Carlos Hernandez (Texas Instruments) - manages board farm at TI
 
* Otavio Salvador (O.S. Systems) - (prefers ELCE)
 
* Jan Lübbe (Pengutronix) - labgrid (prefers just after ELCE)
 
* Milosz Wasilewski (Linaro) - LKFT (ELCE or FOSDEM are fine) - can cover LKFT if Tom can't make it
 
  
 
= Agenda (brainstorming) =
 
= Agenda (brainstorming) =

Latest revision as of 15:17, 26 April 2019

This is a public planning page for the Automated Testing Summit

2018 meeting

Coordinated by: Tim Bird and Kevin Hilman

Mailing list

Discussions on this topic have started at on the "Automated Testing" mailing list of the Yocto Project

Action items from meeting

Action items:

  • (done) Tim: refine glossary with feedback from summit
    • (done) Tim: Create glossary wiki page (separate from survey)
  • modify CI reference diagram with discussed changes (Kevin?)
  • (done) Tim: Finalize survey results (mostly done, see Test_Stack_Survey#Responses)
  • Start working on pdudaemon as central location for power control abstraction for DUT control driver interface (who to do this?)
  • (done) Tim Bird: Create a test Definition survey (to collect Test Definition fields)
  • Tim Bird: Send test phases, as a way of starting discussion on Test Execution API
  • Tim Orling: create pdudaemon debian package?
  • "result format" survey needed soon
  • (done) create a page for test suite links - see Test Systems
    • page created, but not fully populated yet
  • (done) create a page for automated testing overview - see Automated Testing
  • create a reference for experimenting with a test framework: hello_test on a beaglebone
    • document describing how something works on each framework
  • Kevin: create an automated test project in the Linux Foundation
  • collect Run Artifact fields (for possible RA standard) (unassigned)
  • (started) Tim Bird: arrange for sessions and meetings at ELCE 2019
  • Chris Fiege: create "Design for Testing" document aimed at board hardware designers

Date and Venue

  • Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
  • Venue: in the Edinburgh International Conference Centre
  • Date: October 25, 2018

Lunch will be included. Attendance is by invitation and is free-of-charge.

Sponsorship was provided by:

Summit Artifacts

Minutes

See ATS 2018 Minutes

Presentation

Here are Tim's slides from the event: PDF

Video

Videos are available at: https://www.linaro.org/events/attended/ats-2018/

Also, Linaro has them on their YouTube channel at: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLKZSArYQptsPGftWXdlTI7vPCc42FXksD

Many thanks to Linaro as the sponsor for recording and processing the video for the event!

LWN.net report

Here is an article describing the report Kevin Hillman made of the summit. He made this report a few weeks later, at Plumbers Conference 2019.

The article was written by Jake Edge.

See https://lwn.net/Articles/771782/

Attendees

This was a closed, invitation-only event.

For this event, Kevin and I decided to keep it to a small focused group. Linaro sponsored recording the presentations and discussion, and the videos will be made available after the summit. I apologize if you would like to attend but have not been invited. We are hopeful that we can put together a public automated testing event in the future.

Invitations were sent out previously, and representatives from the following projects have agreed to come to the event.

  • 0-day
  • Fuego
  • Gentoo CI system
  • Buildbot
  • Jenkins
  • KernelCI
  • kerneltests.org
  • Kselftest
  • ktest
  • LAVA
  • Labgrid
  • LKFT
  • LTP
  • Opentest
  • Phoronix Test Suite
  • ptest
  • R4D
  • SLAV
  • syzkaller/syzbot
  • tbot
  • Xilinux testing
  • Yocto project (oeqa and ptest)

Pre-meeting work

Tim and Kevin worked on a glossary and survey, and CI loop diagram for discussion.

See Test Stack Survey for the work in progress.

Eventually, we'd like to fill out the information on: Test Stack Layers

Schedule

ATS 2018 Schedule
Time Topic Presenter or discussion leader Slides
9:00-9:10 Welcome and Introduction Tim and Kevin no slides
9:10-9:40 Vision and problem definition Tim ?
9:40-10:40 Glossary and Diagram discussion Tim and Kevin .
10:40-11:00 BREAK n/a .
11:00-12:30 test definition, build artifacts, execution API (E) . .
12:30-2:00 LUNCH BREAK n/a .
1:00-2:00 Brainstorming embedded Linux Requirements with CELP members Tim (discussion leader) .
2:00-2:50 run artifacts, standardized results format, parsers . .
2:50-3:10 BREAK n/a .
3:10-4:30 Farm standards - DUT control drivers, board definitions, discoverability, protocols . .
4:30-5:00 wrap-up Tim and Kevin .

Stuff not fit into schedule yet:

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Agenda (brainstorming)

Here is some brainstorming on an agenda...

  • board farm survey (lightning talks)
    • what are people using?
    • what works?
    • what's missing?
      • board discovery/lab introspection?
  • layers and interfaces
    • what layers are supported, needed?
    • any way to leverage/separate/isolate existing software?
  • what tests need to be supported?
    • boot-time
    • run-time
    • package-based (package unit tests)
    • driver (hardware specific?)
      • requiring specialized hardware external to board (e.g. canbus simulator, hdmi frame-grabber)
    • multinode
      • how to allocate/schedule multiple pieces of equipment for a test (e.g. 2 or more nodes for a network test)
  • results reporting
    • centralized server and API to it (kernelCI json?)
  • sharing tests
  • how to define standards
    • de-facto only? (dominant project? (cough, LAVA))
    • documents?
  • survey of existing projects, and what pieces they focus on (or don't)